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Bach made an impromptu visit to King Frederick the Great of Prussia, and was . Gödel, Escher, and Bach are deeply intertwined in this very short Dialogue. What are some of the most riveting concepts featured in Gödel, Escher, Bach? Why isn’t the Douglas Hofstadter book Gödel, Escher, Bach available as an. Douglas Hofstadter Excerpts from Hofstadter’s Books. On what GEB is really all about (from Gödel, Escher, Bach: 20th Anniversary Ed.) So what is this book, Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid — usually known by its acronym.

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He points out that those inside an internally consistent system can never fully understand the forces outside the system. For example, scientists have a very clear understanding of how a single neuron functions. And it does not matter. Return to Book Page. Hofstadter somehow argues that this proves there is a Nofstadter

Godel, Escher, Bach : An Eternal Golden Braid

This book was so metal. Hofstadter also gives the occasional exercise, leaving the reader without an answer to his question. Want to Read saving…. I’m afraid I have only read the first half of the second half! Looking for beautiful books? Hofstadter himself encourages you to just open the book at random, read a few pages, skip around, look at the pictures, listen to some Bach, etc, and that certainly helped me get a foothold. If you think you’d be interested in the subject matter AND you wouldn’t mind playing simple gel or math games in the service of understanding it AND the inner workings of a computer scientist’s marvelous brain seem interesting to you, then definitely read this book.

I will say that I can’t comment on how much of math I actually understood.

A unique endeavor that, gdeo not always successful in the pursuit of a coherent and convincing elucidation of the author’s theses, represents something of a classic that must be read for its This is quite bch remarkable book: The above image knocked This book was so metal. May 06, Xing Chen rated it it was amazing. We’re featuring millions of their reader ratings on our book pages to help you find your new favourite book. It is definitely not a great example of conciseness with its sprawling pagesand not always rigorous for example, in its treatment of some aspects of mathematical logic and Godel’s incompleteness theoremsand also occasionally a bit loose with the terminology; however this is more than compensated by the peculiar and exhilarating way with which the hofsatdter interconnections and analogies between different disciplines and perspectives are illuminated by the author in his wondrous and sprawling synthesis, architecturally beautifully even if not always based on eschdr sound foundations.


Godel, Escher, Bach in English and in translation would have made him many millions.

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid

So GEB gets points subtracted for that. Neurologist Karl Lashley, in his experiment, had rats learn to navigate mazes. Possibilities of AI The discussions in the book on levels esdher hierarchy of systems and recursion lays out the fact that at the lowest level is a simple formal system which leads to the highest level, our informal system, the brain.

The idea of nested hierarchies is central to the understanding of what makes human intelligence different from machine intelligence. I’m going to be the only one who uses a gif in their review of GEB, aren’t I? While I can certainly sympathize gde, this opinion, I cannot agree with it. Metaphiction is about a real thing, our doug,as of self-consciousness and what it makes us do. In this vein, it is interesting to read Hofstadter’s justification for including the Incompleteness Theorems in his book: Like all good teachers, Hofstadter douglss that the students who work things out on their own are the best prepared students.

Incorrect book title 3 14 Nov 17, This book is a must read or at least must selectively skim for anyone interested in intelligence.

What happened to the woman you thought you were falling in love with? So why wasn’t this serious sentence scoffed at? View all 14 comments. View all 39 comments. This is such a work. They have been arguing about the existence of God. In general, I think that the author should have used, in this instance, more examples and terminology from computational theory; this would have improved the conciseness, conceptual clarity and rigour of the exposition.

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Jul 01, Daniel rated it liked it Recommends it for: The reverse is also true. I thought it was only you up here!

Basically, this is saying that hofstaddter are systems in which its nontheorems cannot be generated via a typographical decision procedure. For example, the chapter titled Contracrostipunctus combines the words acrostic and contrapunctus counterpoint.

On the positive side, the author correctly highlights the critical importance of the fundamental result that there exist recursively enumerable sets which are not recursive in fact this is, in abstract computational theory terms, the very essence of the first Godel’s incompleteness theorem!

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Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter

If I were clever enough, I would write this review as a fugue. And this is the point where Hofstadter utterly fails. This process of generating theorems is reliant on the sifting out of nontheorems. Basic Books was keen. I believe that hofstatder wicked name calling in regard to smart fiction is due to a defense formation against the trauma of being the kind doglas thing we are and the kind of world we make for ourselves, compulsively.

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A quick glance at the back cover will give you the same impression – even xouglas glowing, two-sentence blurbs are hilariously vague, all of them variations on the theme of “Well, that certainly was Hofstadter further creates Bah and FlooPtwo simple programming languagesto illustrate his point.

Although there is a gradual building of concepts through the book, its structure is almost fugal with sections on competing themes alternating and sometimes combining in original and amusing ways. The book had everything you could ask for: We use cookies to give you the best possible experience. There seems to be a fair share of confusion regarding this question.